Was Megan Williams A Masochist?
There is finally some more news out of the Megan Williams story. Thanks, Trench!
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If you remember, Megan Williams was the black girlfriend of a white man that was accused, along with 5 others, of kidnapping and torturing her in a West Virginia trailer. The story prompted cries of racism and demands for hate crimes trials. I wrote about it previously here.
Megan was tortured all right. Tortured by love!
Now Christie Messer, the woman who told the police about Megan Williams’ situation, and is also the sister of one of the kidnappers, George Messer, is speaking out about what happened. And its a bizarre tale of a love affair that is fit for a Jerry Springer show. According to Messer, Megan Williams was given many chances to leave the Brewsters’ trailer. But she wanted to stay because she loved Bobby Brewster.
From the Daily Mail here:
The day before police found Megan Williams, she was given an opportunity to leave her captors. Christie Messer said she told an officer about the 20-year-old’s captivity after trying to get Williams to safety.
She is the sister of George Messer, one of the six accused of crimes against Williams.
Christie Messer said she visited her brother on Friday, Sept. 7, at his trailer in Big Ugly. He had recently reunited with his girlfriend, Alisha Burton, and moved out of the Brewster trailer.
It was there that Christie Messer says she found Megan Williams in a back bedroom, eating macaroni out of a bowl on the floor.
Williams was in black lingerie, with cuts on her body that were clearly infected.
Christie Messer said she let Williams out of the bedroom. She gave her the keys to her car and told her to go to the car, but Williams refused to leave, she said.
“She said, ‘I don’t want to go. I love Bobby [Brewster].’
Messer said she told Megan she needed to go to the hospital to get treatment for the cuts on her leg.
Messer said she told her brother to take Megan back to the Brewster trailer in Big Creek and she would bring the girl antibiotics.
On her way to the trailer she stopped and saw a deputy she knew, Michael Sutherland, and told him about what had been happening to Williams.
“He told me not to worry, that they would get a few guys together and go get her,” Christie Messer said. Police arrived a short time later, she said.
It had been previously reported that Williams was undergoing torture for at least a week. This is not true. Williams had been putting up with abuse for over two months prior to her rescue from the Brewsters’ trailer.
On July 9, Trooper T.L. Toney and another trooper were dispatched to the Brewster trailer. Frankie Brewster called and said Williams refused to leave, Toney said.
The troopers spoke with both Frankie Brewster and Williams and everyone agreed that she would gather her clothes and leave, Toney said. Megan was told that if she did not leave or if she came back, charges could be filed against her.
Toney said Williams had no marks or indications of abuse when he saw her.
On July 18, Bobby Ray Brewster was charged with domestic battery and domestic assault for allegedly striking and verbally threatening Williams at the Big Creek trailer where she was eventually tortured.
On July 21st, Williams was back at the trailer, Christie Messer said.
Messer said that, according to her brother, the first night back in the trailer was when Williams was forced to eat dog and rat feces and to lick parts of Frankie Brewster’s body.
“Bobby was mad about the [domestic violence petition] and they were just being mean to her. He [Bobby Brewster] said it was because she had him put in jail … and because his mom had to pay $300 to get him out of jail.”
Williams was stabbed on Aug. 17, Christie Messer said. She knows the exact date because she has had to go over the details with investigators, she said. Messer said she doesn’t believe Williams was stabbed repeatedly.
“I guess it’s been going on for months. They would get drunk and do stuff to her and the next day everything would be OK,” Christie Messer said.
I am having a really tough time wrapping my head around Megan Williams’ insistence on staying with Bobby Brewster and his abusive circle of freaky friends and family. But its becoming apparent that she could have left her situation, and in fact, was urged to- first by police under threat of arrest, and then by Messer. Some have suggested that she was mentally disabled. But what kind of retarded love would make a woman eat feces, have oral sex with her boyfriend’s mom and then refuse a trip to the hospital to treat an infected wound?
And now Megan Williams has teamed up with a hate group, the New Black Panthers, led by Malik Shabbaz. The New Black Panthers are still trying to pass off this incident as a hate crime, and are marching to raise money for Megan Williams. That the Williams’ embraced Shabbaz and his hateful band of racist merry men only adds fuel to the fire that inflames this ridiculous story.
how do rednecks do it? I dont get it… they beat their women and the dumb bitches keep coming back. is there a trick to this or something ?
I’m going out on a limb here, and I am probably not wrong. Free beer, liquor and drugs. In that order.
yeah, in this case. but a lot of them have drug free women who are beaten and they still go “I cant leave him, I love him and he loves me. Oh this? I walked into a door”
Come on this is a crazy version to get their family off. After they did all that you really think they was going to let her leave. Its something called evidenceand it can tell what happened really not just somebodys sister trying to get her family off with a lighter sentence. If she really was trying to help she could have called the police earlier. Dont try to act like a saint now because it sounds fishy.
I can see alot of women have stayed with men who beat them. Everyone knows someone who stays with a man that does their friend wrong maybe not as bad as this situation but abuse is abuse mentally or physically.The way they keep the women is by saying they are going to harm their family.
“what kind of retarded love would make a woman eat feces, have oral sex with her boyfriend’s mom and then refuse a trip to the hospital to treat an infected wound?”
I guess you have never heard of hardcore dominance/submission. I don’t mean those twinkle-toed fairies playing dress-up in the “BDSM community” either.
Djaran,
Yeah, of course I doubt the full story of this woman, who in my opinion, should be charged as an accomplice. But she wasn’t charged because she cooperated with the police. She also wasn’t charged because her story likely checked out to be mostly true, at least as far as the timeline goes.
But the police told her not to go to the trailer or she would be arrested. She went back anyways. She’s not too keen on her own safety, that’s for sure.
No I wasn’t charged as an accomplice because I had nothig to do with the torture. I notified the police the very next morning, after finding her. I don’t believe my brother should “get off”. He is as guilty as the rest of them. I only contacted the press, so that a few of the facts would get straightened out. The victims mother was thanking the guy that brought Megan to Logan, for her rescue. I felt that she should know the truth. Megan’s mother is no saint. In July when the police tried to force Megan to go home, her mother told them to put her in a homeless shelter because she and her husband could not handle her at home, she said “she was too much trouble”. I have proof to back up everything that I have told. Even though my children and I have been going through pure hell since this has happened, I am glad that I did what I did. I feel that God will reward me someday, so maybe all the bad press and aggravation will have been worth it.
Christie,
Thanks so much for commenting. As someone so close to the issue, can you clear up some points of confusion? Is Megan Williams mildly retarded? And why did she insist on hanging around at the trailer?
I think she had ADHD. My thoughts on her decision (which probably aren’t the actual reason) to stay with Bobby is because first she had warrants out for her and secondly, her mother wouldnn’t let her come home.
Christie Messer, my only thing to you is why did you wait until morning to let the authorities know and why here are you calling it torture, before it looked like you were calling it like she wanted to stay. You know that girl was not right-bright and should have called the cops long time ago, because you said it your self the family is f*^%#ed up. I mean no harm, but people need to be more real. If what you said is true about the mother, wanting to place her in a homeless shelter is true, then she has a problem too. If you know the girl has mental issues, why the hell do you think a shelter is ok. I personally feel she has more problems than just ADHD. One more thing how the hell do you know so much about the past relationship of this girl with Brewster and her mom??? I think you should have been further investigated as an accomplice.
Stockholm Syndrome. Classic case.
Hellztano,
You may be right, but this would be an extreme example.
to all the comments petaining megan williams and shayla williams i am the columbus ohio caregiver of them and i do have five daughters myself,i was the chairwoman of the new black panther party for the columbus ohio chapter i met megan nov.3rd,2008 at the march and rallie to support the williams family yes i was posted up the next thing carmen and megan williams was place by me so i had asked for there phone number carmen wrote it down and megan handed it to me so we stat in contacted visited each other home town stay weeks and days one day one of my daughter had asked megan to see if she could come to ohio with us carmen say yes then she stated to megan do not be going down thee running your mouth a few days later matthew and carmen williams come to get megan and whe carmen enter my house she stated to megan what did you tell them yes i heard it both times and do hve witnesses,and far as the 2007 ordeal in logan county w va from dunbar w va no no no it was from charleston w va to logan county w va it did not happen like that,i had megan and shayla williams for over two years and they came to ohio and brought w va with them it is alot stay in touch and you will know the truth the real welana megan williams and her sister recanted megan done that and far as all tyhat happen to her bullshit believe i know i will get back and far as the case it do need to be reopen and the columbus ohio lawyer do not know nothing about meganhe saw something by the way they both lied to me to come to ohio,i even rasied 2,000 dollars for megan 2005 forgery charges when people raised all that money it should had been pay off and ib did not know nothing about her and when carmen and megan first come to ohio i raised 400,00 dollars and gav it to megan and she gave it to carmen i do a hell of a good job for megan and shayla you all do not know what they be doing,yes i did rceived death threats from cy manning when i first got shayla and a month later when i got megan then carmen williams made threats i got her on tape downtown in ohio.all that did not happen to megan williams it did ot happen like that everybody was not involved,perform oral sex and rat dropping dog and human fece head in the toilet all bull like i said megan is not retarted she is very smart please get back thanks
megan and shayla williams want people to feel sorry for them i did when i first met them like i said they both lied to me to come to columbus ohio shayla stated that cy manning molested there baby girl kayla manning she was five months at that time i got her april 10th 2008 then a month later megan williams had called me and she had a female on the three way when she caled me megan stated to me and the female that carmen williams had attacked her at her job pizza hut carmen came in and demanding money from megan ,megan refuse giving her any money then megan stated that carmen went through the line behide the counter grab megan by the head of her hair drug her out the door to the parking lot across the street called her names stomp and beat her now let have a meeting how megan and shayla williams come to columbus,ohio i tell you all lies i did not have no problem out of carmen until megan came to ohio to me i got shayla williams first the only stupid phone death threats i got was from cy manning it started in june 2008 i got carmen on tape and i took it down town and file,megan is not slow,retarted,crazy nor dum she know what she is doing believe me we can go there i did not step out once i step in,the N.B.P.P did and the so called supporters and some family members people tell me to put them out or send them back to west virginia but i can not do such thimg plus that is all had happen to them that is why they do the things they do i can show you all and tell you all face to face then you will see i did not recanted megan story potts did it,he know nothing about megan did not support her at all he met her the day he recanted her story so he know nothing take him off the net he is full of it,and after he recanted her story he did not follow up with her to let her know anything,please get back please thanks
please let me leave this with you all manipulation A FINAL NONASSERTIVE BEHAVIOR STYLE IS BEING MANIPULATIV.MANIPULATIVE PEOPLE ATTEMPT TO GET WHAT THEY WANT BY MAKING OTHERS FEEL SORRY FOR THEM.THEY PLAY THE ROLE OF VICTIM,MANIPULATION ONLY WORKS AS LONG AS THOSE AT WHOM IT IS TARGETED FAIL TO RECOGNIZE WHAT IS HAPPING.I VALENCIA DANIELS DID NOT MANIPULATE MEGAN WILLIAMS THAT IS BULL I GOT T MAKE SURE THEY KEEP UP THERE HAIR,TEETH,HEATH,DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS,ALOT OF THINGS THEY DO NOT KNOW AND WAS NOT TAUGHT I HAD THE POLICE SEND TO MY HOUSE OVER 14 TIMES FROM WEST VIRGINIA COMING FROM LAWANA WILLIAMS STATE ALOT OF BULL THAT I AM DOING TO MEGAN AND SHAYLA THAT IS BULL SHE EVEN ASKED ME TO HELP HER JUNE 2008 WHEN I WENT DOWN TO PICK MEGAN UP WHEN SHE LIED TO ME TO GET HER I DO KNOW THIS AND HER STORY SHE DID OVER DIDIT ALOT OF THINGS DID NOT HAPPEN TO HER LET HER TALK ARE YOU SCARE OF THE TRUTH I AM NOT I SPEAK THE TRUTH AND I WAS THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE N.B P . FOR THE COLUMBUS,OHIO CHAPTER WHEN I FIRST MET MEGAN I EVEN HAD THE POLICE CALLED ON ME BY LAWANA WILLIAMS AND MATTHEW WILIAMS DIFFERENT TIMES SO LIKE I SAID THE CASE NEED TO BE REOPEN AND LET MEGAN TELL IT.WE DO NOT NED NOBODY TO TELL WHAT HAPPEN TO HER AND YOU ALL KNOW ALL OF THAT DID NOT HAPPEN TO HER PLUSSHE WAS ASKED TO LEAVE FROM THERE HOME BEFORE AND DHE REUSE TO LEAVE,YOU REALLY THINK THERE WAS A CHRISTA,DID MEGAN GET IN A CAR IN DUNBAR W VA OR CHARLESTON W VA AT 216 STOCKTON ST.,DID SHE REALLY EAT RAT DROPPING,DOG AND HUMAN FECES,WAS SHE FORCE TO PERFORM ORAL SEX ON FRAKIE BREWSTER WHAT REALLY HAPPEN WILL JUST GET BACK PLEASE THE REASON WHY I KEEP ON IT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK I AM UP TO NO GOOD I AM LEADING MEGAN WRONG NO AND FOR SHAYLA PEOPLE SHE HAD IN HER LIFE DONE HER IN AND THAT IS ALL SHE KNOW SHE O NEED ON GOING SERVICES IT IS UNHEARD OF I FEEL FOR SHAYLA SHE IS THE ONE FOR REAL WHO PEOPLE AND FAMILY FORCE SEX ON HER ABUSE HER MISLED HER MADE HER DO THINGS SHE SHOULD NOT BE DOING I GOT MY FIVE DAUGHTERS AND I PROTECTED MINES I STAB FOR MINES TO LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD AD I WILL DO THE SAME FOR THEM ON THE RIGHT IS RIGHT NOT ON THE WRONG I AM NOT ON IT LIKE THAT JUST COME TO COLUMBUS,OHIO AND ASKED ABOUT ME MOMA DOGG THAT IS MY STREET NAME I HAD OVER 27 YEARS PLEASE COME AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL PLEASE GET BACK TO ME THANKS
THAT WITCH MAMA DOGG IS PUTTING FEAR INTO THOSE THAT KNOW HER, WELL I AM A WARRIOR AND I AM NOT AFRAID TO CONFRONT THAT WITCH, SHE IS POWERLESS, THE ONLY CONTROL SHE HAS IS WITH YOUNGER WOMEN, LAYING AND HAVING SEX WITH GIRLS AS YOUNG AS 13 YEARS OLD, SO WHO IS SHE FOOLING, OH BIG OH TRAMP SHE NEEDS TO BE PUT UNDER THE JAIL, FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE BY PLACING FEAR IN OTHERS WHO WILL NOT TAKE A STAND AGAINST HER WICKED WAYS.
YES THIS A WARRIOR WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO STAND UP AGAINST, YOU ARE POWERLESS, YOU ALWAYS WANTED PUBLICITY, SO YOU WILL HEP UP LIES AND MESS TO JUST GET PUBLICITY GOING, YES YOU DID MANIPULATED MEGAN AND SHALYA, NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO COVER UP YOUR LIES, BY TELLING ANOTHER LIED, YES, I AM A BOLD WARRIOR STANDING UP AGAINST YOU AND STANDING IN THE GAP FOR THOSE WHO IS AFRAID TO CONFRONT, YOU ARE A COWARD, INSECURITY AND A MANIPUTALOR WITCH, YOUR KINGDOM OF HELL IS COMING DOWN ON YOU
HELLO HERE I AM AGAIN, THE BOLD FEARLESS WARRIOR;
WHERE IS THOSE THAT IS WILLING TO TAKE A STAND AGAINST THAT WITCH, WHAT IF THAT WAS YOUR DAUGHTERS, WHAT IF THAT WAS YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR SOME ONE TO BE A VOICE FOR YOU, TO KNOW THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER THAT IS ON THE HORIZION.
SO THAT YOU MAY BE DELIVER FROM THE WITCHES BREW OF HELL, WHERE SHE IS ALLOWING THEM TO EAT OUT HER INFESTED VAGINIA, WHERE VALENCIA IS JUST FUNKY NASTY, NASTY, NASTY, SHE IS SO MANIPUTIVE TO THE POINT THAT SHE WILL EVEN TRIED TO DECEIVE OBAMA TO BELIEVE HER LIES, BECAUSE HER TONGUE IS LIKE A SERPENT FROM HELL, THERE IS NO FEMALE MOTHERING CHARACTERISTIC ABOUT HER, JUST TWO ROUND BALLS OF TITS AND A SPLINT THAT LOOKS LIKE A VAGINA, BUT SHE IS STILL BAD TO THE MAN, IN CONTROLLING YOUNG GIRLS, AND PIMPING THEM OVER TO SICK PERVERTED MEN WHO HAS AIDS, YES I AM EXPOSING THAT WITCH FOR WHAT SHE IS, SHE HAVE DECEIVE AL SHARPTON AS HE CALLS HIMSELF REVEREND, IN THAT CASE HE DID NOT HAVE NO DISCERNMEN TO IN WHAT HE WAS GETTING HIMSELF INTO IN DEALING WITH,VALENCIA DANIELS POT OF HELL, HE IS SUPPOSE TO BE A MAN OF GOD TO TAKE THE MATTER IN THE HANDS OF GOD, AND WHO EVER HELPED AND ASSISTED VALENCIA DANIELS TO AWARD HER CUSTODY WITH MEGAN AND SHAYLA WILLIAMS, THE BLOOD IS UPON YOUR HANDS, WHERE YOU DID NOT DONE NO FOLLOW UP ON THEM PHYSICALLY TO SEE HOW THEY ARE DOING, BUT TOOK UPON YOUR SELVES TO BELEIVE THE LIES THAT VALENCIA DANIELS BIG OH HE-MAN HAD TOLD YOU, WHAT I AM ABOUT TO CONTINUE TO EXPOSE WILL MAKE OTHERS GET ON THEIR KNEES TO REPENT FOR PUTTING 2 GIRLS IN THE PIT OF HELL OVER VALENCIA DANIELS HOUSE OF DOOM, TORTURE AND HELL, DO NOT LOOK ON THE OUTER APAREL AND HER INTELLECT WORDS FOR THAT IS TOO ALSO THE WEB OF DECEPTION THAT SHE HAS BEEN PREYING ON THE INNOCENT OF IGNORANT SOULS WHO JUST HEAR THE WORDS OF POSION MISCHIEF AND THE STRONG DELUSION OF OUTER APPAREL AND LUXURY WHERE IT CAUSES MANY TO MISS OUT THE MAIN FOCUS OF WHATS BEHIND THAT OUTER BEAUTY OF HELL, TORTURE,LIES, OPPRESSION, DECEPTION, MONEY/ MATERALISITC WHOREMONGING, SELF GRATIFCATION , SELF DELUDED WITCH FROM HELL, SHE IS A POOR EXCUSE TO BE SOMEBODYS DAUGHTER, MOTHER, SISTER, THE TRUTH IS BEING TOLD, VALENCIA DANIELS I AM NOT AFRAID OF YOU.
YOU HAVE TRIED TO KILL ME AND MY LOVE ONE, BUT WE GOT AWAY FROM YOU AND YOUR SICK TWISTED PERVERTED WAYS, YOU WILL NOT DESTROY NO SOULS OF GOD, YOU WILL BE CAUGHT, AND BURN IN HELL AND ALL THOSE WHO IS WILLFULLY KISSING YOUR BUTT, AND KEEPING QUIET ABOUT WHO YOU REALLY ARE, YOU ARE NOT HUMAN, YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO SOCIETY,QUESTION WHO BIRTH YOU IN THIS WORLD AND WHAT GOD CREATED YOU FOR YOU TO DO SUCH A HINDIANCE TORTURE OF THE MINDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO WELL KNOWN SUCH AS: REV AL SHARPTON, AND THEIR ATTORNEYS, AND YET THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO HAVE INTELLECT, AND KNOWLEDGE, DEGREES, TITLES, YET GOT DECEIVE BY A PERSON WHO HAS MADE YOU ALL GUILTLY OF THE MESS SHE HAS CAUSE, JUST TO GET PUBLICITY AND CONTROL OVER THE WHOLE STORY, THE TRUTH IS THAT YOU ALL GOT DECEIVE BY VALENCIA DANIELS, AND I AM A BOLD WARRIOR AND WILL STAND IN THE GAP FOR THOSE WHO DARE NOT MUMBLE A WORD OUT OF THEIR MOUTH, BECAUSE OF THE FEAR OF HER BEING A FORMER NEW FAKE PANTHER, THE TRUE BLACK PANTERS WILL NOT ALLOW A MANIPULATOR AS VALENCIA TO EVEN SIT ON A POTTY CHAIR, SHE NEEDS TO BE UNDER THE JAIL CELL WITH ROACHES, RATS, MAGOTS, DRINKING HOT PEE FOR TEA, AND A BOWL OF HUMAN DISCREMENT, VALENCIA DANIELS IS SO SICK IN HER HEAD, SHE EVEN BELEIVES SHE IS GOD, AND THAT SHE IS MIGHTY AND GREAT, WHERE NO COURTS, WHITE HOUSE, OR ANY ONE WILL STOP HER HOG WASH LIES, AND THEN HAVE OTHERS AS PUPPETS ON THE STRINGS DANCING TO HER MUSIC. VALENCIA DANIELS IS A COWARD, SHE HIDES BEHIND THE MASK OF THE NEW BLACK PANTHERS, AND STATING THAT SHE IS AN ACTIVIST, SHES RIGHT A CIVIL ACTIVIST OF DESTROYIBG INNOCENT PEOPLE REPUTATION AND THEIR NAMES, REV AL SHARPTON AND THE OTHERS MUST APOLIGIZE FOR FALLING IN THE TRAP OF THE WEB OF DECEPTION OF VALENCIA DANIESL, AIN’T IT SOMETHING SHE HAS WENT TO THE HIGHER UPS IN REPUTATION TO TAKE YOU ALL DOWN WITH HER. THATS WHAT THESE MONEY, MATERIALISTC WHOREMONGERS DO , USE YOU AND YOUR NAME TO MAKE HER HAVE FAME WHERE ALL ALONE SHE USE YOUR NAME AND TO MAKE YOU ALL LOOK ASHAME, ANOTHER ONE BITE THE DUST. VALENCIA DANIELS HE WILL KNOW YOU FOR WHO YOU REALLY ARE, AND THOSE THAT IGNORE THE CRIES OF OTHERS YOUNG FEMALES WHO HAVE BEEN UNDER YOUR HANDS AS A SEX MONEY WHORE SELFISH INDULGENT GOD OF SELF.
YOUR KINGDOM IS COMING DOWN YOU ARE POWERLESS, AND THOSE THAT IS IN OPERATION WITH YOU, YOU MAY BE A WARRIOR OF YOUR OWN FAKE PANTHERS, BUT THE TRUE NEW BLACK PANTHERS WILL NOT CONDONE YOUR MADDNESS, TO BRING SHAME TO THEIR NAME, OR REPUTATION.
YOU WILL BE HEAD ON WITH A BOLD FEARLESS WARRIOR WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO CONFRONT YOU, YOU WILL KNOW WHO I AM, DO NOT BE DISMAY, FOR I HAVE ALL POWER TO TAKE YOU DOWN.
BOLD WARRIOR IN YOUR FACE
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A REMINDER TO VALENCIA DANIELS, I AM NOT AFRAID OF YOU, YOUR KINGDOM OF DOOM; IS COMING DOWN. ANOTHER HEAD WILL NOT BE TURN NOR THE VOICES WILL NOT BE IGNORE,
WTF? I try to read your scrawl and I keep hearing a cuckoo clock.
THE SO CALLED WARRIOR YOU ARE A BIG JOKE…YOU NEED TO SEEK GOD SERIOUSLY. ALSO I WANT TO NOTE THAT NONE OF WHAT YOU HAVE STATED IS TRUE. LOL OH AND BY THE WAY I KNOW WHO YOU ARE, AND YOU SHOULD KNOW WHO I AM. YOU ARE SICK HOW ABOUT YOU SEND PICTURES OF YOUR DAUGHTER TO MEN ONLINE AND IN PRISON. REMEMBER THAT ONE? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA COMEDY